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To: taylor@lart.com
From: theDesperato@helferlein.net
Subject: Re: Let me make this perfectly clear
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Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2001 19:58:35 +0100 (CET)
Status:   

Writing officially to the owner of domain lart.com and the web site 
www.wilhelp.com/brad:

A P.S.  Since you so obviously need an attitude adjustment, let me
add a couple of rules.  On Dec. 1 if either of your pages are up,
I shall respond with the post sample below to all MENTIONS of either of your
2 pages that are still viewable by my newsreader (i.e. I will go
"retroactive" a bit so your punishment may begin immediately if you
do not follow through).  (2)  Any stalking and harassing mention of
your page to his local newsgroup which occur or which are available still
to the newsreader will trigger an FAQ to your local newsgroups.

I do not know why you ever got into this, but we have put in only
the briefest time on you so far.  I think you are crazy.
That will change to miserable _on Dec. 1_.  Best get out of
this before you have ended up with what you surely do not want.

Brad apparently has let you save face.  I myself would have gotten
even by posting a page about you for about a year and advertising it.
That may still happen to you.

After Dec. 1 if your god-damned slanderous web pages are still up,
this is what people are going to be reading after EACH MENTION of
either web page of yours:

Quoting in-part a well-indexed web page (Note: this web page will be up after Dec 1 if
both your pages are not down and it will be quoted and this material WILL BE
ARCHIVED):

Taylor Jimenez Harassing Malicious Power Mad Loser

I am now going to address what I believe are clearly illegal activities that
are egregious violations of the any state's stalking and harassment laws and
of other laws as well.    Taylor Jimenez and/or his "pals", as you will learn,
are absolutely  threatening, stalking, and harassing extortionistic thugs.
Jimenez is of the opinion that he can get away with his activities because
people he is against would have to hire a lawyer and go to court and spend a
lot of money to put an end to his activities.  The most egregious and many
illegal acts and instances of illegal acts shall be described and documented
below.

I would like to bring to peoples' attention to the issue of slander/libel/defamation
that is going on against at least one person through a malicious web site run
hosted by Taylor Jimenez.  And, I feel that it is important to bring up  related
matters.  The conduct associated with this "owner" of the web page and his
associates has in my view been illegal in other very serious ways.

A certain person named Brad Jesness had an email address (altshift@att.net AND,
equivalently, altshift@worldnet.att.net or altshift@postoffice.worldnet.att.net)
was unknown until he emailed the owner of the web domain www.lart.com and asked
him to please remove the libelous/slanderous/defamatory web site.  The owner of
the web domains involved was one 'Taylor' Jimenez of Newport Beach, California.
In a moment I will tell you what Taylor Jimenez and his associates did once they
learned Brad's email address -- there was illegal conduct involving forgery.
This web site is not only a problem in and of itself, since it is defamatory and
slanderous or libelous, but Taylor has also used it to extort posters to
newsgroups NOT to post certain facts or views OR he will put it back up
(in what seem to me to be attempts at extortion).  Let me elaborate:

There are 2 other matters of illegal conduct linked to the web site or the web
site owner and "friends" of his who chime in with his Internet/newsgroup thuggery.
(1)  After learning Brad's email address, many, many posts were made to
newsgroups (INCLUDING LOCAL newsgroups, like mn.general and mn.politics )
that involved forging both the name "Brad Jesness" and the email address
(they used: altshift@postoffice.worldnet.att.net most often).  These posts
were full-blown forgeries and posts made under Brad's and email address where
stalking and harassing to an extreme degree.  The evidence of all these
forgeries is too voluminous to provide.  It is easy to find, though.
Go to http://groups.google.com and do an "advanced search" using the email
address I indicated or the full name, "Brad Jesness", and you will see literally
dozens of posts were made using this email address and name and many posts
were attacking his totally innocent wife.  NO posts under the name
'Brad Jesness' OR his wife are him.  He has never posted by name to Internet
newsgroups for years and his wife has never posted.  Brad also has NEVER
provided the altshift email address in any newsgroup posts.  Again, the email
address was previously unknown and had NEVER appeared in newsgroups.  Within
ONE DAY of Brad's contacting the domain owner of http://www.lart.com, i.e.
Taylor Jimenez, MANY posts using the forged email address appeared.  Obviously
now, I have shown how Jimenez slanders and defames Brad and how he forges and
stalks and harasses Brad.  In contact with him or "his official domain" his
responses make it clear that Taylor Jimenez believes he is above the law.  He
makes it clear that he thinks Brad's only avenue of taking care of the problems
he has caused me is to hire a loyal, go to court, prove the pages libelous and
then come to him.  I believe that under the law, possibly associated with
stalking and harassing laws (but perhaps other laws as well), we can prove this
arrogant malicious hoodlum wrong.  I shall be providing quotes of correspondence
between Taylor and Brad so you can witness his arrogance and his stalking and
threatening nature.  This brings me to my next point:

A second area of illegal activity (in addition to the above stalking and harassing
and forgery) is the use of the web site in what I see as amounting to extortion.
 The web site (as I will show in correspondence from Taylor Jimenez, Newport
Beach, CA) has been used to threaten Brad and his friends if they post certain
facts or views to certain Internet newsgroups.  Taylor's threats are very broad.
Any anonymous poster to the sci.psychology.psychotherapy newsgroup who posts stuff
Taylor Jimenez does not like has been threatened with him putting the libelous
web site back up.  (The clearest direct evidence of this can be found by doing
a http://groups.google.com advanced search looking in the
sci.psychology.psychotherapy newsgroup and using the search term "Taylor" or
looking for posts by the author "Just Taylor".  I shall provide quotes of some
of these threatening and extortionistic posts in the material below.)  Thus the
impropriety of the web page goes beyond the web page itself and it is used for
stalking and harassment and extortionistic threats.
I will now provide some other evidence of this here and now, in the form of
correspondence from Taylor Jimenez and his pals to Brad, quoted.

_In addition_ to the threats Taylor makes on the sci.psychology.psychotherapy to
put up the web page in response to posts he does not like, the following is the
sort of anonymous threats I get when Taylor sees anything posted that he does
not like that he thinks I posted:

>Return-Path: 
>Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2001 09:41:13 +0200
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>To: altshift@att.net
>Subject: Do you really want to do this???
>
>Brad,
>
>See you are getting braver, and posting hate stuff again.
>
>Do you really want to do this??
>
>Remember, I own you!
>

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>To: altshift@att.net
>Subject: gloves
>Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2001 00:33:56 +0200 (CEST)
>
>Are you using gloves and a mask to check your mail?
>
>I thought not.
>
>Might be wise in today's environment.
>

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>To: altshift@att.net
>Subject: Move?
>
>Thought you were going to move out of ur wifes house?
>

(end quoted emails)

Recall that Taylor Jimenez just recently learned Brad's previously unknown email
address.  Also recall that he makes threats publicly by name that implicate him
in the above anon harassing and threatening emails.)

When confronted with the above behavior, the following is the sort of reply Brad
gets from Taylor Jimenez, Newport Beach, CA:

Return-Path: 
X-Sender: taylor/lart.com@pop3.norton.antivirus
Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2001 11:06:34 -0700
To: altshift@postoffice.worldnet.att.net
From: Taylor 
Subject: Re: Tell you what ...

at 08:50 AM 10/22/2001, Nomen Nescio had this to say,

>I will agree, for my part, not to bring up the PAST as long as others do
>not. Otherwise it is one for one. This is the way it has been and will
>be.  Period.  This is absolute

I gave you your only option, Brad.  Get lost or the page goes up at later
today.  You have nothing to bargain with.  Nothing to offer.  I know who
I'm dealing with.  I know everything there is to know about you.

>If you do ever put up the libelous web page, you will regret it in more
>than one way.  How would you like it if someone proposed that sppFAQ go
>out to all relevant newsgroups on a steady schedule?  This is the
>kind of extortion you are engaging in, and I can prove it with your
>providers. I can show extortion, harassing email, plus your past gleeful
>misuse of Brad's email address -- gross misconduct for any responsible
>domain head.  No one will let you administrate ANY
>domain if all this is brought up.

Brad it is you that is harassing people via e-mail.  It is you who keeps
this going.  I'm only responding.  If you think you have a case have your
lawyer contact me.  I'll pass my lawyers information on to him and we'll
see who will finish on top.

>You are also associated with terroristic threatening email. So I would
>try from now on to be kind to others and maybe you will not end up in
>jail (Do know that all necessary providers have been contacted to link
>the terrorist email to the emailer, though, since logs do not last.)

My giving you an out Brad is not threatening or terroristic.  However your actions
are.  This e-mail alone is threatening.  You are making a big
mistake thinking that this e-mail of yours is not traceable back to you,
Brad.  I haven't focused on you as for the most part you're a dink.  A
pesky fly that isn't much of a bother but easily squashed when the time comes.

>We all know what you want.  You will get it.  You will get what you want
>if you forget the past.

So you will again be disappearing?  If so then the Brad FAQ will remain
off-line.  Like I said though, once it goes up it won't come down for at
least 30 days.

>But, other than that.  I
>own you. Get lost.  I never want to see you again, or I will give you
>my full attention (the above matter and whatever).

You own nothing, Brad.  I know that because I know all there is to know
about you.  Your lame attempts at intimidation are very amusing.

>Fuck off asshole.  I have you in several ways.  You better forget Brad and
>I exist.

Oh, like that is going to help you out, Brad.  You're about as scary as a
toy poodle.

Taylor


NOTE:  This all shows the extortionist manner in which Taylor Jimenez is
managing and using the web page, as does:

Return-Path: 
X-Sender: taylor/lart.com@pop3.norton.antivirus
Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2001 11:17:46 -0700
To: altshift@postoffice.worldnet.att.net
From: Taylor 
Subject: Re: Let's make a good deal

At 10:00 AM 10/22/2001, Nomen Nescio wrote:

>Taylor, if you do make the mistake of putting up the libelous web
>site, both you and the people you try to help will go down.

No they won't.  You have nothing to bargain here.  I hold the
cards.  Dissappear or remain on topic and the Brad FAQ will remain
off-line.  Take your chances and continue your current path it goes back
and if you become bothersome, I turn the head up further.

>First, we will seek to put you in prison.

First, there is now we.  It is you, hiding out in some room thinking you
and Rebecca are immune from your actions.

>Second, we will make sure you are no kind of administrator of anything,
>even a free domain.

Sure you will.  This is utter nonsense, Brad.

>Third, we will participate in many many newsgroups and inform
>people about the history of a certain newsgroup at a steady pace.

So.  Who cares?  Hell Brad, I hardly read Usenet anymore.  I don't care
about the lame shit that goes on there by any side.  If you want to spend
your time crying like the little sissy you are be my guest.  I could care less.

>Fourth, you will be sued or take legal actions (if I am not content
>with the above measures).

Like I said with my earlier e-mail, have your lawyer contact me.  I'll give
him my lawyers info.  Lawsuits don't intimidate me, Brad.

>I will begin all of this immediately, if you put up the libelous web
>site.  I suggest you use your better
>judgment.  All will commence and continue non stop unless we have
>your cooperation.

No Brad, I suggest you start using better judgment.  Stop being a little
crybaby.  You have one out here.  That is grow up and start acting your
age.  There is no negotiation.  There won't be.

>You have a pledge from me not to delve into any past to smear people
>AS LONG AS THEY CAN KEEP FROM DOING IT.  This commitment should be
>enough.

You said that less than 30 days ago.  You lied.  No thanks.  I'll stick to
my terms.

>I would consult with certain others, if I were you, before putting up the
>site.  You do not want to hurt people more than help them.

I have no need to consult with anyone.

>For my part, in addition to promising to remain current in any discussion
>I do on Usenet, IT HAS BEEN MY INTENTION TO LEAVE USENET EXCEPT FOR >THE
>MONTHLY POSTS.  While I do not feel I owe you that assurance, I do agree
>not to bring up the past.

I don't care, Brad.  Get that through your pointy little head.

>Let's all do the best thing here, okay???

I already told you what I am going to do.  I don't care what you do.

Taylor

(end quoted posts, showing the way the web page is being used for extortion)

NOTE:  Taylor Jimenez now says he will leave the web page up forever now.  I
should also note that the web page is used in conjunction with advertisements
of in to many, many newsgroups, including mn.general and mn.politics, where
Jimenez and associates not only forges Brad's name but attacks his wife and
posts advertisements about the libelous web page in a very harassing and
stalking manner. Go ahead and do a http://groups.google.com advanced search
using www.lart.com/brad (or http://www.lart.com/brad) and www.wilhelp.com/brad
(or http://www.wilhelp.com/brad) as the search terms and you will see how
advertisements for these web pages and sites (both owed by Taylor Jimenez of
Newport Beach, CA) are being used not only for something I see as extortion,
but in a clearly stalking and harassing manner.




Also, here are web links that will bring you to much evidence against Taylor
Jimenez and his associates:

All forgeries, none of these posts were made by Brad  see:

http://groups.google.com/groups?as_uauthors=altshift@worldnet.att.net&num=100&hl=en

AND see:

http://groups.google.com/groups?q=author:Brad+author:Jesness&num=100&hl=en&filter=0

To see how the web page is used as an instrument not only for
libel/slander/defamation, but as a tool to do off-topic malicious
spam that is obviously stalking and harassing and threatening see:
(Note each pair below may show substantial overlap.):

http://groups.google.com/groups?as_epq=www.lart.com/brad&num=100&hl=en

AND

http://groups.google.com/groups?as_epq=http%3A//www.lart.com/brad&num=100&hl=en

AND

http://groups.google.com/groups?as_epq=http%3A//www.wilhelp.com/brad&num=100&hl=en

AND

http://groups.google.com/groups?as_epq=www.wilhelp.com/brad&num=100&hl=en


----------
See the abuse of Brad's wife (a total innocent) by following this link:

http://groups.google.com/groups?as_epq=Renee%20Jesness&num=100&hl=en

Brad's wife is a totally innocent person.  They
have sought to damage her to get to Brad.  They are thus guilty of
harassment and stalking of Brad's wife who has absolutely no involvement in
the newsgroups.  NONE.

As you can see by following that link, they also forged Brad's wife's name
and made it look like she was posting.


Here is other pertinent evidence against Taylor Jimenez.:

[snip]